Comments on: (My Experience of) Racism in Hawaii https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/ Traveling full-time in a financially sustainable way Wed, 19 Jun 2024 11:43:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Dale https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-720739 Thu, 02 May 2019 13:41:14 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-720739 In reply to theprofessionalhobo.

I lived in Oahu for two years and yes it can be a dangerous place for whites. Asians and Hispanics are less targeted. A gang of 7 locals surrounded me at a park with my wife and were about to beat me to a pulp. I told my wife in Spanish to get away. They assumed I was a non-white and then politely left me alone. A young mother and her newly returned veteran husband didn’t have the same luck. They were severely beat near a Badkin Robbins because the wife had slightly bumped the locals car. Their newborn baby was spared a beating so I guess the locals are not that bad. Hawaii is beautiful because of the tourist and military revenue. Oahu would be another Samoa.

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By: Thomato https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-719934 Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:07:04 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-719934 In reply to Kanaka.

Annnnnd you just voided your entire dog whistle rant with one line
“Any hatred or perceived racism that you received is actually the privilege you are accustomed to that you didn’t receive because equality feels like oppression to you.” Tell yourself, preacher.

The genealogy rant at the top was also hilarious but also applicable. If they can’t assume you then you can’t assume them.

It honestly sounds like you are an apologist for your own culture’s racism and a closet supporter. There is a lot of easily misplaced (we’ll call it nationalism) in your post. Your handle alone is indicative to those of us in the know 😉

Lived around the islands for 12 years during the 80s and 90s. You know what you are doing and saying and what you are inferring. You are not much better than Jeff up there.

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By: Kanaka https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-719720 Mon, 22 Apr 2019 20:28:55 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-719720 Bold of you to assume that they were Native Hawaiian. It’s funny how you acknowledge that racism is a learned trait, but you assert the ones who targeted you were Hawaiian. How do you know this? Did they present to you their genealogical ties to these islands?

And it’s funny how you “had been (luckily) warned” that “native Hawaiian tend to resent the white man.” Who warned you??? A local of Hawaiʻi whose family has lived here for a several generations OR some foreign transplant who has only lived here for a very short period of time and who has NOT immersed themselves into the culture of the islands and who have no respect for Hawaiʻi which consequently forms their own biases (the same biases you have formed) against the people of Hawaiʻi?

And NO Haole doesn’t mean “without breath” or “soulless one.” It means “white person, american, englishman, caucasian; english; formerly, any foreigner; foreign, introduced, of foreign origin.” http://wehewehe.org/gsdl2.85/cgi-bin/hdict?a=q&r=1&hs=1&m=-1&o=-1&e=p-11000-00—off-0hdict–00-1—-0-10-0—0—0direct-10-ED–4——-0-1lpm–11-haw-Zz-1—Zz-1-home—00-3-1-00-0–4—-0-0-11-00-0utfZz-8-00&q=haole&j=pm&af=1&fqf=ED

Anyone who is familiar with the Hawaiian Language, Hawaiian grammar, and basic Austronesian linguistics knows that word cannot be broken apart in that way linguistically because ʻole can not slurred with the preceding word. Pauʻole for example is never pronounced as “Paule” by speakers of the Hawaiian Language.

In addition, traditional Hawaiian mele (song) and moʻolelo never use the term “haole” in the context of being “breathless” nor as a marker of race. In truth, it had no racial connotations prior to the 1840s. The idea of race itself is a western social construct and was not within the traditional Hawaiian way of thinking, which emphasizes genealogical kinship particularly to the land. Nor did the word “haole” have any negative connotations until 1860s when Henry Whitney, founder of the Commercial Advertiser (today’s Honolulu Star Advertiser) complained about assertive Hawaiian newspapers like “Ka Hoku Pakipika” because of their nationalistic content and his newspaper was beginning to lose subscribers.

In fact, the first major complaint about “racism” was not from Kānaka ʻŌiwi (“Native Hawaiians”) but was directed to Kānaka ʻŌiwi and specifically against King Kalākaua himself by members of the “Missionary Party.” The allegation would be used against him throughout his reign because the king had a habit of trying to appoint his people (of all ethnic backgrounds, including Hawaiians, Chinese, and Japanese) to cabinet positions which didn’t sit well with the white non-native europeans/americans who were currently in these positions. And it was in this time (1870s), due to politics, that the term “haole” acquired its modern negative and racial connotations by the general population of Hawaiʻi. Historically and in Hawaiian moʻolelo (stories), the word “haole” existed but had nothing to do with race but was merely a trait of a classification of peoples who one does not share an immediate genealogical connection to (meaning eight generations or less) or speaks an unfamiliar language. In other word, something (yes, it can be used to describe an object) or someone “different” from Hawaiʻi, uncommon in Hawaiʻi, or originating outside of Hawaiʻi. It was NOT a racial term.

The Kumulipo (our genealogical chant/our origin story), which predates the arrival of Captain Cook in 1778 by millennia, uses the word “haole” no less than seven times, describing people born of different traits. Kamapuaʻa, a prominent demi-god in Hawaiʻi, actually is described as being haole because of his bright brown eyes and in some accounts, his ʻehu (reddish-brown) complexion and hair.

I could go on but I think I made my point. Kānaka ʻŌiwi did NOT make the term “haole” into a negative racial slur. Our words are descriptive words and any negative connotations in association with the concept of race is completely unfounded.

Racism should have no place in anyone’s heart and is a poison. While perpetuating lies and falsehoods about a culture, a people, and a place that you obviously know nothing about coupled with your shallow attempt to understand Hawaiʻi (or any place for that matter) through a culturally appropriated and colonized lens is just as toxic.

Any hatred or perceived racism that you received is actually the privilege you are accustomed to that you didn’t receive because equality feels like oppression to you.

Here’s a suggestion, educate yourself. You can start by reading

https://abolitionjournal.org/precarious-performances/?fbclid=IwAR3ZVoeaZrGKF2ZF9ucK7QPj_s0bP2GCB9_00KrswH_04B31tqKuc73KSsw#_edn7

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By: Melissa https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-718008 Fri, 05 Apr 2019 04:10:47 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-718008 In reply to Anonymous.

Your attitude and placement above everyone around you is privilege and white supremacy that Hawai’i doesn’t need. If you hate it so much, LEAVE.

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By: Anonymous https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-717890 Thu, 04 Apr 2019 03:07:38 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-717890 I have lived on Oahu for 6 years. I am an American who has lived all over the US previously. I hate it here. The constant racism and ongoing hatred toward me is more than I can bear. I came here not knowing about the racism. I am attractive, blonde, Caucasian and Native American. I have never been able to secure a job to even make enough money to leave. There are very few Caucasians here to even hope about a chance at a job at getting hired. The Hawaiians and Asians will never socially be egalitarian as most global cities on the mainland are. I am socially excluded, shunned, and ridiculed. Recently the collectivist culture females have hit me and yelled at me in public places. The police do nothing when they show up as they are collectivist culture also. Please someone help me leave.

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By: Mike https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-717706 Tue, 02 Apr 2019 02:43:33 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-717706 In reply to RJ.

Maybe initially on looks only. However I cannot speak the pidgeon slang here, so folks can immediately tell I’m not local.
There is a difference here between being a minority and being a local. There are some whites who are local (were born here, or lived a long time), and they speak pidgeon.
When you speak pidgeon, it identifies you as being from Hawaii.

In the areas I experienced on the mainland (west coast and east coast), I really have not had any problems as the areas are very diverse.

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By: Jay https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-717690 Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:36:38 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-717690 Hawaii has been misgoverned to the point that it’s basically a 3rd world country. Honestly, I just wish the folks that are identified as “haoles” would just up and leave so we can let this ****hole burn itself out.

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By: Corey https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-717489 Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:28:02 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-717489 What I found ..which is so funny..my last name is Falo and I’m half Puerto Rican and half Portuguese..I’m not even white but they are so backwards that they are not used to seeing a Hispanic that they stare at me and call me that white name too..my son is Sioux Indian and he was called that too..I laugh but lately have challenged..who you calling white? Who’s white? Lol it’s ok to be white but let’s at least understand who is white and who is not white..lol

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By: RJ https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-717076 Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:52:49 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-717076 In reply to Mike.

Do you feel like you face way less discrimination in Oahu compared to the mainland US? As an Asian, I am guessing you are treated far better by Hawaiian locals compared to whites (or Haoles) who face daily racism.

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By: Mike https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/racism/#comment-716057 Mon, 11 Mar 2019 00:54:31 +0000 https://www.theprofessionalhobo.com/2007/12/racism/#comment-716057 Asian male here raised on mainland. Moved to Oahu 15 years ago.
I don’t speak pidgeon, so locals never perceive me as one. Having lived elsewhere, I’m used to socializing with persons of various ethnicities and ideas.
What I observe in Oahu is what one would see in a small rural town on the mainland. Folks are protective of their community, and often view others as outsiders. Especially in Hawaii, as it is an island state.
The truth is, there is also a lot of lower class folks here. I think that combined with a small island community, and lack of exposure (many folks I know have never been off the island), people stick with who they know and that’s kind of natural when you think of it.
When I see racism here, overt or subtle, toward others I feel it is such a pity because the same race they are discriminating against have many fine folks who have done a lot of good for others, including here in Hawaii. As corny as it sounds, there are good and bad in each race and to write one off altogether is very narrow minded.
I don’t feel I have to be accepted by everyone. I have my own thing going. I don’t feel bad if I do get discriminated by locals because I understand it and feel I am the newcomer after all. In a way I feel I’m a partial observer living here and that makes it kind of fun.
Another weird thing is many of the different polynesian groups (Hawaiian, Samoan, Tongan, Micronesian) discriminate against each other.

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